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JoeBob · Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Utica New York

Hi folks, you covered the 1728 Musket by Loyalist Arms.

I just bought one for MilitaryHeritage.com.

Today vented the musket and fired, very impressed, both with quality, fit finish and price.

If you buy one you will need to vent it. Good instructions on where to properly set a vent can be found on the Track of the Wolf website (i.e a good description of the "sunset position") with their vent liner stuff. Used 1/16 drill and drill press and vice (along with a center punch). Process took 15 minutes (measure twice, cut once) but saved almost 100 dollars over Loyalist Arms...... If you take your time you can pay for your bayonet, and shipping and still have a little left over.....

Overall this musket has the feel of an original musket (model 1746) a friend owned.

Mario · Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 652 Location: Mohawk Valley, NY

Glad you came out ahead. I have friends that have purchased guns from MH and there have been too many horror stories for me to take the chance Confused

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Mario
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JoeBob · Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Utica New York

I had a problem with an early (circa 1999) 1777 French musket. Lock configuation was off making you need to use an undersized flint. Also my musket had a recessed breech, great if you were trying to accurately shoot but not ideal for a rought and tumble musket.

Now as I understand it this lock configuartion issue is being fuly considered by the manufactuer on all the muskets they make.

All of these muskets appear to be made by the same company in India. Basically I beleive that the locks are farmed our to small contractors (just like the 18th Century) who forge them (there was a show on the discovery Channel showing a matchlock musket being made for hunting in India) The forged parts are hardened using industrial processes (cynide hardening).. The barrels are industrially made, and I am not sure how the stocking process is done.

I believe that basically Military Hertiages's muskets are the same as Loyalist Arms (except for models contractually heald by one or the other company), except for the venting issue.......

Fitz Williams · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 908 Location: Greenville, SC

Since we are on the subject of the 1728 fusil, I have a question. What needs to be done to the Loyalist Arms 1728 fusil to make it more correct?

JoeBob · Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Utica New York

One thing the butt of the musket should be branded "Au Roy" if your unit existed after 1749( roughly translated it means "The king's") if in Canada and carried by La Marine. This can be done with a wood burning set with letters you can get at larger craft stores (I did). Here's the excellent research done by another on this issue: http://www.geocities.com/ohio_company/Files/fusil2.pdf

Also a company commander's mark should be added (see the Track of the Wolf Catelog for an orginal French Marine Musket so marked).

Other than those 2 small items they (both the Military Heritage.com and Loyalist Arms Muskets) are exceptional in quality and markings....

Mario · Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 652 Location: Mohawk Valley, NY

Mario · Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 652 Location: Mohawk Valley, NY

Fitz,

It's message #2111 on the ALLNOUVFRANCE group.

Mario
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Fitz Williams · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 908 Location: Greenville, SC

Thanks. I may end up getting one. It's not my choice, but I am not up for another major project just now, so it might have to do.

I took a look at what David wrote, and the only thing I don't understand is how you remove wood from the forestock without ruining the fit of the barrel bands.

Okwaho · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 911

I didn't read it but like you I don't know exactly how you reduce the forestock without affecting the bands.I suppose you could get someone to make some new bands or cut the old ones horizontally, reduce and then heliarc weld them back,just some thoughts.
Tom Patton

Fitz Williams · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 908 Location: Greenville, SC

If Ledoyen comes to Crown Point, maybe he can describe this a little better. Or maybe I can just look at his. Or maybe I will just remain Milice, and then I don't have to worry about it.

Lancette · Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Montreal

Mario · Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 652 Location: Mohawk Valley, NY

Bonjour David!

Nice to see you here.

Mario
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Chevalier · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject:

David,

Hi, could you PM me regarding the buff leather we talked about at Ganondagan?

Thanks!
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Fitz Williams · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 908 Location: Greenville, SC

Lancette · Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Montreal

As I offered it earlier, here some pics of my M1728/46 from Discriminating General, after improving a bit. It is shot next to another musket from the same supplier.

Note :

Enjoy.

The comb and grip got more character with a more defined groove:

General views of the lock area on both muskets:

The cock as it is delivered:

The cock with two new screws made on the lathe:

On some repros, the lock is sunk in the wood:

A bit of trimming makes it stand out:

Other views of the lock.

The bevel on the lock plate edges got more definition after filing it. The rear section of the lock plate was made thinner, with a gentle slope.

Three last photos to show the trimming that the upper stock underwent.

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